Fulfillment Revealed Part 7 #Who is Antipas in Rv2?
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Shincheonji Fulfillment Exsposed Part 7
Chairman! Did an angel really show you the true entity of Antipas?
Introduction
Announcements from the ex Shincheonji member:
This video is meant
- To spread awareness about Shincheonji and prevent people from being deceived.
- To let Sincheonji members know that Shincheonji is false.
For the viewers’ comfort, Lee Man-hee is referred to with the title of Chairman. Since I made this decision after due consideration, I ask for your understanding.
Hello. This is the ex Shincheonji member. Today, I'm going to talk about the Chairman’s teachings about Antipas in Revelation 2.
You've probably already seen this without paying much attention.
As you know, the one who sees and hears the instructions of the Holy Spirit would never talk about this based on his own thoughts, without receiving any revelation, right?
Shincheonji members, you believe that the Chairman has received and delivered the revelation, but unfortunately there are some rather questionable parts.
Please, watch this video and see whether the Chairman has really received the will of God or it was a fabrication, because this hardly fits the Bible.
You are free to watch this video and make your own conclusions, but I hope you can judge rationally.
When Pastor Shin Hyun-wook left Shincheonji, he raised a puzzling question.
It was a question about Antipas in Revelation 2.
This is from the Shincheonji Press.
The question of Pastor Shin Hyun-wook was, “Who is the physical entity of Antipas today?”
This is the answer to that question.
"The letter to the angel of the church in Pergamum requests to be as loyal as the martyr Antipas.
It is not about Antipas himself, it calls for loyalty like that of Antipas on the part of the angel of the church in Pergamum.
Names of the Old Testament like Balaam, Balak, and Jezebel appear.
Did these characters exist in the seven churches at the time?
Names of Old Testament characters are used, but they are not people who existed at the time.
Likewise, in the case of Antipas, a character of the New Testament is used not to talk about the person himself, but to set his martyrdom as an example.
It doesn’t mean that there must be a real person that corresponds to Antipas today."
How does this answer sound like?
In conclusion, to me it sounds like, "It’s not necessary that the true entity of Antipas appears."
This was to explain that Balaam, Balak, and Jezebel, who are characters of the Book of Revelation, did not appear at the time of the fulfillment.
However, doesn’t it sound a bit strange?
Let's continue our analysis.
This video wants to be an esy explanation about the interpretation of Revelation from the point of view of Shincheonji and according to their doctrine. I hope you won’t misunderstand.
The letters of Revelation are addressed to the angels of the 7 churches at the Tabernacle Temple, right?
In Revelation 2, John writes letters to 4 of the angels.
Then let's consider them one by one.
First is the letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus.
If you are a member of Shincheonji, you certainly know what it is about.
And you also know who the Nicolaitans are and what they did.
Shincheonji teaches that the Nicolaitans, that are clearly characters of the Old Testament, will appear at the time of Revelation.
If you look at the Sincheonji's Doctrine Comparison videos, the one about Revelation 2 gives this explanation:
"Balak, Balaam, Jezebel, Nicolas, and Antipas are Bible characters, and when the Book of Revelation fulfills, there will be people who act as they did."
Then, let's check the answers of Chairman Lee Man-hee in the counterargument booklet.
He said that Balaam, Balak and Jezebel are characters of the Old Testament, and that they were not real people in the seven churches, right?
In Sincheonji, they teach that (the Bible) is written in parables that refer to physical entities, so I don’t understand why he answered that they do not exist in reality.
So, there are no real people corresponding to Balaam, Balak, and Jezebel.
However, later on the Chairman must have had an enlightment and realized who they are.
These days he teaches that there were people who acted like them.
Now you can understand why Pastor Shin Hyun-wook asked who Antipas was.
Since he was taught that Balaam, Balak, and Jezebel are real entities at the time of fulfillment, he asked about the true entity of Antipas.
No matter how hard I try to understand the answer in the counterargument booklet, it doesn't make any sense.
Wasn't it the revelation received by the Chairman that the physical fulfillment of the book of Revelation exists today?
Then, let's look at the letter to the church in Smyrna. “Those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan” highlighted in red, exist as real entities according to Shincheonji .
Since the Chairman saw with his own eyes the physical fulfillment of the Revelation, he certainly knows who those people are.
Next, the church in Pergamum.
Now, the real entities according to Shincheonji are those highlighted in red.
You know who Balaam, Balak and the Nicolaitans are.
Even if you don't know these names, you know the real entitities.
Unfortunately, Antipas is just a character of the New Testament, but he doesn't exist in reality and doesn’t have a real entity.
Isn't it strange? All the characters in Revelation 2 exist as true entities with the only exception of Antipas.
According to the Chairman, this (verse) means that one should emulate his martyrdom.
More strangely, in the Book of Revelation Balaam, Balak, the Nicolaitans, and Jezebel are not members of the seven churches.
Antipas is the only member of the seven churches.
If the angel of the church in Pergamum knew about Antipas at the time, shouldn't there be an Antipas at the fulfillment of the Revelation,?
Other real entities are characters of the Old Testament, so why only Antipas, who belonged to the church of Pergamum, doesn’t have a true entity?
Now, let’s talk about the letter to the angel of the church in Thyatira, where Jezebel appears.
Jezebel is taught to be a real entity.
If you look on the Internet you can verify that on the doctrinal comparison videos about the Nicolaitans, Balaam or Jezebel, Shincheonji teaches they all have real entities.
That's weird. So far, all the characters of Revelation 2 have real entities.
Only one of them, Antipas, doesn’t appear in reality.
Am I the only one who finds it strange?
But the thing is, also the Chairman Lee Man-hee seems to find it weird.
He probably thought,
“Once I explained it like that ... but I don’t think that’s quite right ...”
Why do I think so?
After Pastor Shin Hyun-wook left Shincheonji in 2007,
the Chairman Lee Man-hee wrote a book called the Creation of Heaven and Earth.
However, when I read about Antipas in that book, I found out something surprising.
Apparently, that Antipas of the church in Pergamum who was said didn’t need to appear in reality, now had a real entity!!!!!!!
However, he said that he couldn’t mention this person's real name because doing so could lead to a lawsuit (pg 188).
But he used to say he didn’t exist so why he suddenly claims the opposite?
And the real names of the Nicolaitans and of the betrayers are all taught.
Then why he cannot reveal the name of Antipas, who was martyred while devoting himself to his faith?
All the names of the characters we have just seen were made known, is there any reason why only the name of Antipas cannot be revealed?
Could it be because of the lawsuit? Or is it because he doesn't exist?
Pastor Shin Hyun-wook found it strange,
And I thought it was strange too, after reading the answer in the counterargument book.
And when I saw the entity of Antipas, (that didn’t exist before), suddenly appear, I thought that even the Chairman Lee Man-hee must have found the fact that Antipas didn’t have a true entity weird.
But it doesn't end here.
The enemies couldn’t overlook this contradiction and asked about that again. (Shincheonji calls enemies those who interfere with their work)
In the counterargument book against Shin Hyun-wook, you wrote that there was no Antipas, so why in the book the Creation of Heaven and Earth you said that there is a true entity of Antipas?
Then, Shincheonji answered in the book Coercive Conversion Winning Education.
Like the first answer, this one is also difficult to understand, so let's examine it carefully.
I am curious to see how they are going to answer.
In response to the correct evidence, the Chairman said that there were some parts that he can’t reveal yet.
Among those, the facts related to Antipas.
The Chairman told us almost everything about the physical fulfillment of Revelation, so why can’t he reveal this, even after 50 years from the beginning of the fulfillment?
Let’s look at the continuation.
"Antipas is mentioned in order to show to the seven angels an example in Antipas's loyalty, and not to promise a real entity."
This is a letter for the angel of Pergamum, but the recipient has been changed to the seven angels.
Well, in Shincheonji if one of the angels receives the letter, it is as if all of the 7 angels received it so let’s move on.
Anyway, it was only Yoo Jae-Yeol who got the letter.
"It was not promised that Antipas should appear as a specific entity today.
However, since today there is a person with the same faith as Antipas’s at the first coming, this (verse) indicates that at the time of the fulfillment there will be a person with a strong faith like Antipas."
What does this mean? Are they saying that the entity of Antipas exists or not?
They said that it was about the loyalty of Antipas, that it was not referred to a specific person, but then it turns out there is a man of faith like Antipas today.
However this person has the same faith like Antipas, but he isn’t the real entity of Antipas.
Is this right?
Then why in the Creation of Heaven and Earth the Chairman explains that a person was spiritually put to death like Antipas(pg 188), as if it was the fulfillment of a prophecy?
The Chairman taught that the other characters were fulfilled according to the Word because of their specific actions, but what kind of revelation would make Antipas the only exception?
Maybe because he couldn’t find anyone like Antipas in the seven churches?
I hope you will ponder whether he saw and heard the revelation, or if he made up a story that somehow fitted the Bible.
As you know, the Chairman always writes this on the front page of his books.
(This script is more specific, as it is related to a testimony)
1. I answered the questions of the Bible through a question-and-answer with the angel?
2. I recorded the Revelation as I saw and heard it.
3. I am the only one who has seen the fulfillment of the Revelation.
4.If someone testifies about the Revelation without seeing and hearing it, he commits an arrogant, abominable act, and he is a false and an heretic pastor.
However, the same person who said that, is now unreasonably telling two different stories in different books.
Did he really hear this during the question-and-answer period with the angel?
Or he made it up or copied from someone else's idea.
Is the Chairman lying to hide other lies and the contradictions that pastor Shin Hyun-wook has exposed ?
Some of you might think, “Maybe the real entity of Antipas just appeared at the end?
He said there are some parts that he can’t reveal. Maybe it’s because we are not yet ready to understand?”
And I understand your concern.
But everyone, did you know that the words that seemed true according to the 5W1H principle (what,when,where,why and how), and the fulfillment that has appeared according to those words, have been modified several times before?
If the fulfillment changes with time, it can not be the perfect accomplishment of God’s will.
Do you still think that the Chairman is a wonderful person who exposed the wrongdoings at the time of the fulfillment and made them right/and testified the truth?
Or since the Holy Spirit goes back and forth and is not always with him, the Chairman can have a slip of the tongue and be mistaken about the fulfillment?
If it is the real fulfillment of the Word, it should never change.
In the fulfillment proclaimed by Shincheonji there are hardly any contents that has remained unchanged.
Please, judge rationally by yourselves.
