About lying

To people who are in class or new members, and current members, about lying

 If it is wrong to lie, it should always be wrong to lie.

SCJ defines two types of lies. The spiritual lie, teaching something God did not say/intend, and a physical lie, your everyday lie (e.g, "how was your day" "it was great thanks...").

One of them leads you to hell and the other, it doesn't. However, they do not condone either one of them, and say you shouldn't spiritually lie, nor should you physically lie, but if you do tell a physical lie, it's not really much of a big deal to God. 

This is where it gets a bit nuanced. If you're new to SCJ, or about to finish classes, just know that you are not the only one who is silently against the culture of lying that is passed off as "wisdom". 

The first shock, or "earthquake" you will have is when you realise your classmate was actually a member the whole time. 

Call them your "eye" your "leaf" your "mother who was bearing you" etc. Some ppl really don't care, and some people already know from the start that the person(s) they've been attending classes with was really a member the whole time, and not actually "listening for the first time."

I don't see this get revealed often enough, but for each and every one of you, there is a group chat active, dedicated to tracking everything you do. 

Up until you "passover", these group chats are frequented on, to discuss who you talk to, what you do every day, what you do before class, what you think about during class, what you think about after class, what your family life is like, how badly or how well you're actually retaining "the seed" from the sermons/classes, and so so much more. 

To current SCJ members, you might think you've ascended this sort of monitoring, and you sort of have, but it's on a macro scale.

> A poster on this page leaked one of the gyjn/tjn powerpoint slides here, about how to manage the group, and one of the "musts" was "finding out the members friendship connections within our church". 

I didn't really notice it at first, but when I was leaving, before I had left, my leader had casually asked me this, and it's plain obvious now why they're asking who I am close to, so that they can prevent me from talking to them. 

Tangent, but, the point I'm making is, even though you have "passed over", even if you're a team leader, or a head instructor, you are still being monitored and you can still be lied to. 

It is wrong to(physically) lie they say, and you shouldn't lie if you don't need to.But what if they/you DO NEED TO? If it leads to "saving" you/them, then it's ok. 

Even if you have to lie to your parents that you're going to "hillsong", or "staying back at uni to finish some more work", the principle can be applied onto you, all the members of SCJ, to "save you".

If they have to cover up the death of a member in the army of light training with lies (not saying they did, but they definitely could and you wouldn't question it), and combat all their negative social media slander they receive, with "they made it up, they told the truth about some things, but lied about the rest"(would you even ask which parts were the lies and which ones were the truths? try ask, see if they will directly answer, or if they'll conclude "why are you trying find faults"), - they could be lying for your "salvation" and you wouldn't know. 

Thing is, do you care? Should you care? If they can lie to you before passing over that your leaves weren't members the whole time, to "save you", they can definitely alter and lie to you about the details of the fulfillment of revelation to "save you." It would be easy too, because every now and then, members are instructed to hand in all their notebooks to be destroyed/held for safekeeping "because it's dangerous to keep at home for your family to find", but at the same time, you'll now have less of an account of whether the doctrine has changed or not. 

Though that would be a spiritual kind of a lie there, but when it comes to doctrines, be weary that the doctrine has changed in the past(dates were changed to fit the narrative), and technically, the testimony of the fulfillment is not God's testimony, essentially, it is what Mr Lee's testimony is, and as a result wouldn't count as a "spiritual lie(of what god did not say)"

I have no idea what evangelizing is going to be like after all the lockdowns are over, but, even if scj starts to evangelise directly (saying they are scj from the get-go), it wouldn't change their history of evangelising using lies, or as they would call it, "concepts/wisdom".

tldr; if lying has exceptions, members as much as new students are not exempted from being lied to either.